Some thoughts on all this

[elementary_vision]

First I want to say that the higher mind seems like a very vague concept. And vibrations seem equally vague. But we can all agree that beliefs are important. Now I'm open to most things, but the fact that we can't be aware of our own vibrational state or measure it makes it very difficult to understand. I'm not discounting the higher mind, I accept the possibility of it existing, but I feel it is not as tangible as say the subconscious mind.

And here's something else. What if the higher mind is actually another subconscious belief? What if it's actually a creation of our own minds and the belief in a higher mind makes it so? What if most people create this higher mind archetype because they have trouble accepting that they are in control and they create their reality. What if all the channeling of beings or spirits is really just a coping mechanism because we cannot fathom our own power?

Think of it this way. If you had some average joe come to you explaining LOA and how to get anything you want, you'd instantly be skeptical right? We're just humans and everything we've been led to believe over the years tells us we have limits. But imagine that same guy comes to you claiming he channeled some being that knows the truth. You may not immediately believe him, but this being makes it seem more plausible and adds an element of mystery. In your mind this being has none of the associations with being human and limits people tend to attach to that word. By putting faith into some higher power, you transcend those limiting beliefs that might still exist inside of you that are related to your own power.

Which reminds me of an occult forum I was looking at one time. I believe someone used spongebob as a deity to attract wealth into their life. It worked. And I believe it worked because suddenly the power was no longer in their hands but an outside source. But we have to question, why we need that outside source? Is it because of limiting beliefs? Or is it that an energized thought form does exist somewhere in a plane of existence and the more people who believe in it lends power to it? Then others can tap into this source of energy and manifest easily.

I mean think about ancient civilizations and their gods. Many people laugh that they would worship these fake beings. But what if their belief in them helped them harness the LOA? Better crops, more rain, etc. The more people who believed in these gods, the more powerful the collective conscious was.

I think the problem is we have a split right down the middle of individuals. You have the "skeptics", who aren't skeptics. They just outright refuse to believe that there is more to this world and demand proof. Their beliefs act as manifestations as well and stomp out anything that conflicts with their reality. Then you have individuals who go too far. Believing in deities and higher powers, crystal powers, etc. The new agers I guess. They aren't bad people, it's just that reality and the one most people hold conflict with each other greatly. One seems more real and the other one is very woo. I believe we are moving to a more middle ground over the years, but it's very hard.

So I guess I wrote a novel here. Any thoughts? Arguments? I'd love to hear what others think.

[Merlin]

First I want to say that the higher mind seems like a very vague concept. And vibrations seem equally vague. But we can all agree that beliefs are important. Now I'm open to most things, but the fact that we can't be aware of our own vibrational state or measure it makes it very difficult to understand. I'm not discounting the higher mind, I accept the possibility of it existing, but I feel it is not as tangible as say the subconscious mind.

The goal is not to force everyone to believe this or that because almost EVERYTHING in the LOA is totally abstract and there is no way we can prove anything here.

However, for those who like to do research in depth about a topic, then this is the conclusion that many members here arrive to.

You can read some more here...

http://www.merlinworld.com/forum/viewto ... f=7&t=1685" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This being said, what REALLY matters is RESULTS so all this spiritual talk and theories is just for fun and should NOT be taken too seriously.

Merlin

[elementary_vision]

First I want to say that the higher mind seems like a very vague concept. And vibrations seem equally vague. But we can all agree that beliefs are important. Now I'm open to most things, but the fact that we can't be aware of our own vibrational state or measure it makes it very difficult to understand. I'm not discounting the higher mind, I accept the possibility of it existing, but I feel it is not as tangible as say the subconscious mind.

The goal is not to force everyone to believe this or that because almost EVERYTHING in the LOA is totally abstract and there is no way we can prove anything here.

However, for those who like to do research in depth about a topic, then this is the conclusion that many members here arrive to.

You can read some more here...

http://www.merlinworld.com/forum/viewto ... f=7&t=1685" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This being said, what REALLY matters is RESULTS so all this spiritual talk and theories is just for fun and should NOT be taken too seriously.

Merlin

Thanks for the link. I really like your philosophy on all of this. The parallel realities makes me think of a book I read called Parallel Universes of Self. The author basically described this exact thing. Unfortunately his process was conscious, meaning you had to do that act like you already have it thing and just believe. Which is incredibly difficult for most people. So I guess some people just start off at a higher vibrational state right? Or maybe we are all pure when we come into this world and it's just those around us that fill us with limiting beliefs?

This makes me feel like the emphasis on clearing the subconscious mind is more work than necessary. If one were to successfully shift into a parallel reality couldn't the shift just be one where the negative beliefs were never in place? If we attempt on clearing this current reality subconscious mind, would that anchor us in the current reality?

An analogy that popped into my head. So I always think of technology when it comes to the brain and whatnot. Let's say you've got a computer right? And it hasn't been working too well. So you replace some parts. That's kind of like working on the subconscious mind and going in and clearing out the beliefs and changing them. A lot of work. But let's say you just go out and buy a new computer, already made. Comparing the two, if you don't factor in money, one is way easier than the other. So what if jumping into parallel realities is like buying a new computer instead of fixing the current one you have?

Seems the trouble would be getting the shift to occur. And maybe removing the limiting beliefs to that would kick start the process. Once you can freely shift between realities maybe NAPs wouldn't even be necessary because you know it's possible and can duplicate it.

You know what's funny? I made this realization a couple of days ago before I even heard of this forum. I started to believe that we have a power within us that allows for great change and all we had to do is start to accept this power. This wasn't one of those passing thoughts. I urged myself to believe it because I had manifested all the things I didn't want in my life and I figured there is something going on. Well a few days later I stumbled upon this forum. I also thought to myself I'd rather be perceived as crazy and delusional while enjoying my life than realistic and miserable. I think a lot of what holds me back personally is what people think of this. People will outright insult you and call you stupid sometimes. But in history it seems every great idea is ridiculed before it is accepted as truth. Maybe years from now more people will embrace these views or there will be measurable evidence.

[Merlin]

I had manifested all the things I didn't want in my life and I figured there is something going on.

Yeah it's ALL about UNlearning or clearing A LOT of negative limiting beliefs implanted mostly between the age of 0-7 by our parents that are affecting all the big areas of our lives (Health, Finances, Relationships, Physical Changes).

Here's Dr. Bruce Lipton on the topic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGi8KFraN-U[/youtube]

Merlin

[MonsterLord]

What I like about LTP as well, is that if we pull it off, we don't have to have anyone else tell us about spirituality, we can merely shift our vibration to find out the truth by ourselves firsthand experience.

[Merlin]

What I like about LTP as well, is that if we pull it off, we don't have to have anyone else tell us about spirituality, we can merely shift our vibration to find out the truth by ourselves firsthand experience.

Spirituality to me is just a name, a field of research like a library alley where I can get answer that the science alley didn't provide.

Merlin