Research and crazy people, how does this work?

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Research and crazy people, how does this work?

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Hello guys, you see I have been thought about everything we have learned here and I came at a very interesting question: If our beliefs define your reality, then what about the crazy people?

Let me explain (this example comes from a movie I saw), imagine that during the French Empire we have a guy in Spain believes he is Napoleon or the Emperor of the French.

Now, going by what we have learned this guy should shift to a parallel reality in which he is the Emperor. However in the movie we saw him beign stuffed to a mental instution (which were more like prisons) and people laugh at him.

Which then makes me wonder, why? Shouldn't this guy have actually shifted? He believed it, yet he is there. I hope someone can give me some explanation on this.

Or for example the guy from A Beautiful Mind, he believed he was in some conspiracy and even saw the guys (at least in the film) that wanted to catch him, but yet everyone saw him as a crazy guy and was commited. Shouldn't this guy had shifted to a parallel reality in which the conspiracy is true according to the research? Even Bashar have some videos in which a guy starts to ask him about the conspiracies and he tells him not to focus on that because he will then shift to a reality in which they really exist and there are people who will see all this repopulation thing, famine, etc. and some who dont.

So I don't understand then. I have come with 3 possibilities:

1) The guys (the original guy from a beautiful mind and the one which believed to be Napoleon) shifted to a reality in which they really were Napoleon and pursued by a conspiracy. The people left behind in their vibration did not see that reality because they did not shared that vibration, but it really happened and they shifted we just don't saw it.

2) They did not had those beliefs in a deep enough level, but how is that possible? In both instance its obvious this is so deep the SM is outright acting. Unless of course these were dramatizations from the films and wasn't so deep as it looks.

3) There is a missing element needed, aside from belief.

4) Such a radical shift to avoid the ilussion of continuity falling apart without the "permission slip", require the "shiftee" to be aware of this kind of stuff and open to it.

5) The true belief was in the crazyness, not in the reality or that this was actually happening.

Other than this I can't come up with anything else and but it really bugs me, its this kind of stuff that at times makes me doubt. Of course I do believe in what we are doing, but thinking about this leave some questions, so I would like someone to explain this to me, so that I can erase those doubts, because I think as long as they are there my SM will be a bitch in doing the big shifts, even with NAPs. Thank you guys.
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Regarding your Napoleon guy, all the parallel realities exist RIGHT NOW so in 1 he is Napoleon, in another he's crazy and think he is, it doesn't matter because you don't know what he sees in HIS reality so forget about the others.

It's not where they shift to in YOUR reality that matters to them but where they shift to in THEIR OWN reality. If you think a person is crazy, they are crazy in YOUR reality, it doesn't mean they are that way in THEIR reality.

So it's ALL your fault in the end how the world is around you because YOU shifted to a reality where the world is all fucked up. Just like in the Ho'Oponopono technique... You have to take 100% responsibility of what you see around you because it is based on YOUR beliefs.
MonsterLord wrote:so that I can erase those doubts
This is what I replied to a similar question today.
Kurozuki wrote:Yes but if I keep thinking that it won't happen then it won't really happen.
Not really. What you think using your Conscious Mind has very few impact, it's what you BELIEVE in your Subconscious Mind and the amount of limiting beliefs you have that will slow the manifestation process so you can bitch and doubt all you want during the day, it may slow down the process a bit but if you keep listening to your NAP and remove all the limiting beliefs that you have on this topic, you will attract your goal whether you like it or not.

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This is a VERY big relief, this mean that as long as I use NAPs even if I am consciously worried about something, it won't overpower the NAPs? Because I have become hellbent on not having a single worry with the fear of this affecting my reality and frankly is a VERY taxing thing to do (my migraine has heightened due the effort of policing my every thought). So can I just relax and allow the conscious mind to do its thing as long as I have the NAPs?

Okay about what you said to me, so it is possible that for example, the guy I am seeing in front of me kissing a girl, in his own reality is lets say, the VP of Microsoft?

Are these realities REAL realities? Or just realities they created in their mind?
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MonsterLord wrote:This is a VERY big relief, this mean that as long as I use NAPs even if I am consciously worried about something, it won't overpower the NAPs?
Well think of the SM as a bowl with lots of rocks (aka limiting beliefs). Everytime you feel like crap and have doubts, you add a new rock in the bowl. Now think of Cleaning NAPs as a hand that removes 1 rock after another and another and another during the entire night.

Your negative thinking CANNOT keep up with the removal of the beliefs. The NAP will ALWAYS remove more rocks each day than you can dump in it by doubting and bitching about you not having your goal.

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I often joked about the title of my new ebook being "BITCHING YOUR WAY OUT OF PROBLEMS" :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's crazy but it's true. As long as you do a Cleaning NAP, you will get there whether you like it or not.
MonsterLord wrote:So can I just relax and allow the conscious mind to do its thing as long as I have the NAPs?
Or you can bitch around, add new rocks and slow down the process a bit but it won't change the outcome so it's up to you. ;)
MonsterLord wrote:Okay about what you said to me, so it is possible that for example, the guy I am seeing in front of me kissing a girl, in his own reality is lets say, the VP of Microsoft?
Yup.
MonsterLord wrote:Are these realities REAL realities? Or just realities they created in their mind?
This is why I told you lately to "COME BACK TO THE SURFACE" because even though I understand that this parallel realities topic is fascinating, it is still just "Cute Information" meaning that they are NOT useful AT ALL.

You will never know if there is another version of you who jumped in the reality you just left 1 second ago and will never know if there is another version of you who was there a second ago in that reality you just jumped to now. You will also never know what the others are doing in THEIR reality right now because it's THEIR reality and they can be worlds apart from what you thought they look like in your reality. Your junkie friend might be a 747 Pilot in his reality and you would be shock to see him look like this in his pilot uniform, etc...

You need to leave behind this "Cute Information" and start worrying about the "REAL" life, the ONLY life that matters to you.

So whether they are real or not and whether there are other versions of you or others in them, IT....DOES....NOT.....MATTER, because you will never know the answer for real, so STOP worrying about them and focus on your Cleaning NAPs to change the only life that you can control and forget about the other ones.

Hope I was clear enough this time. :roll:

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Merlin Title of my new Ebook "BITCHING YOUR WAY OUT OF PROBLEMS" :lol: :lol: :lol:
Now that- is a "Bitchin" title!! :D

wireman Cheerz Pioneerz :SupNap:
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wireman wrote:
Merlin Title of my new Ebook "BITCHING YOUR WAY OUT OF PROBLEMS" :lol: :lol: :lol:
Now that- is a "Bitchin" title!! :D

wireman Cheerz Pioneerz :SupNap:
This was just a joke btw, it will in fact be called The Doorman.

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I can't wait to read the updated version of your book Merlin. BTW the Doorman there looks pretty badass.
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MonsterLord wrote:I can't wait to read the updated version of your book Merlin. BTW the Doorman there looks pretty badass.
It will all depend on the results I get from my Cleaning NAPs. No kick ass results, no ebook.

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Merlin-- This was just a joke btw, it will in fact be called The Doorman.
It's just me, I am twisted :lol: Still a Bitchin title!! :D

Out w/the old and in w/the new, tedious,time consuming but WTHeck , got nothing to do but sleep and listen, worth the work, and time spent.

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