Hey, kinda off topic and don't know where to post.

[abilify1]

For a long time now Ive been looking around the internet and joining forums on about making money online.

Ive always found great ideas. Like starting a online business selling a great product, investing.

My next investment will be huge and wanted some input.
I found a good online casino engine that doesn't need a licence because the customers buy points instead of credit and with the points they buy prizes. The engine is very good looking and professional.
I will have to save up my money and maybe even get a job.
The cost of the engine is around 550 CAN.
I can get a 10% discount tho.
Then I will have to buy a good domain and hosting.
that should probably be around 55$ (the 10% discount covers it)

The only problem I have is advertising.
How exactly would I get my website on a good page on google, enough so that I get a good amount of customers.
I'm hoping someone has some experience with internet marketing.
How much will my advertising cost me?
thanks.

[Merlin]

I'm hoping someone has some experience with internet marketing.
How much will my advertising cost me?
thanks.

I've been an internet marketer since the year 1 of the internet back in 1994. I've seen it all. I saw Google come to life and grow to become the giant it is today and as an SEO (Search Engine Optimizer) I've always been searching to list my sites at the top of page #1 in Google but they always keep changing their search algorythms so one day you are #1 and the next day you drop back to page #20. It's very frustrating.

One way you can be on page #1 for sure is by using their Adwords program (sponsored listings) where you pay to be on page 1 for the keyword(s) of your choice which in this case would be investing. The problem with this system is that you pay Google for every visitor that click on your ads on page 1 and that can cost you a fortune very quickly.

So unless you are making a TON of $$ with your product, I discourage anyone to get in this internet marketing business unless you want to master the free results but that takes A LOT of dedication, research and investment. Google loves content so you will have to write 600+ word articles for each keyword(s) you are targeting and that is not obvious.

The drp out rate in IM (internet marketing) is 97%, only 3% make it and usually those are the guys on the pictures with big checks that lure the other to buy his IM system so that he can make more money or to become an affiliate under him.

Sorry to be that hard on you but trust me, I know the internet VERY WELL, if it would be that easy, I wouldn't be here replying to you and this forum wouldn't exist, I would be traveling the world in my private jet

Registering a domain name (.com), creating a new website and hosting it on the internet takes me less than 1 hour thanks to Wordpress blogs with their theme templates. All this is just the easy 1% of the job, bringing traffic to your site is the 99% portion of the job and the hardest part to master.

Merlin

[abilify1]

Thanks merlin I had no idea you were into internet marketing.

How effective are google ads? How much do u think it would cost me to get a few paying members a week with google ads?
Does google allow advertising of online casinos?

If you want we can continue this over PM.
or we can leave this for other members that might be curious about internet marketing.

[Merlin]

Like I said, it all depends on the keywords you use and the markup you make with the product you sell.

For example, if each click on page 1 cost you $0.25 each and you receive 100 visitors, that's $25 that goes to Google. Now let's say that for every 100 visitors on your website, you make 1 sale that makes you a profit of $30.

So with these 100 visitors, you paid Google $25 but you made 1 $30 sale so ($30 - $25 = $5 Markup).

Having a 1% conversion rate where you make 1 sale every 100 visitors is pretty much standard on the internet for information products and software so you can boost your markup by finding super rare and long keywords that doesn't cost 25 cents per visitor.

Merlin

[Merlin]

Does google allow advertising of online casinos?

It's not illegal to promote online casinos but it's immoral. As an online casino affiliate, you make a cut ONLY when a client signup using your affiliate code and loses money. Part of the money the casino made with money the guy lost goes to you.

The question is, will you be able to sleep at night when all the $$ you make are the ones that people lost? Go for it if you can but that's not my style.

Besides, you are targeting a VERY competitive market full of sharks who are not only experienced SEO but have A TON of $$ to pay for their ads and outrank every new kids on the block like you.

Merlin

[abilify1]

My second Idea is selling subliminal audios because I own 2 programs that both can make effective subliminal audios.

There not much market when it comes to subliminal cd's and mp3's so maybe starting there would be best.
I know theres a market for them because of my ebay business selling them. I'm selling custom subliminals on ebay and I'm making a few dollars a sale but it only takes me like 10 minutes to make them. I made about 30-40$ a month making them and selling them for 4$ each plus selling membership to my website.
I stoped tho because I forgot to pay my ebay fees for 2 months and it all added up and I needed like 30$ to unlock my ebay that I didnt want to pay because I spent all the money I made that month. and started just recently again with a new ebay.

Another thing I may do is start my own Investment site do you have any experience with investing websites (most of them scams now a days) I think they call them HYIP. There are some legit ones tho.
With the investment website they would invest into me and I would invest into forex or my new idea is my DAD.
My dad is a gambling master. When my dad had his laptop that I now have because mine messed up. I'm getting a new one for christmas tho so I can give this one back to my dad.

Anyways He would play on pokerstars all the time so much that he became very good. He would invite his friends over and play them in poker and win even when they bet money.

This month my dad went to the casino with 300$ and came out with 1700$ he never told me what he used slots, roulette ect.
His second trip there he went with like 100$ and played the slots this time and came out with 1000$+ He said it didnt matter what machine he went to the machines were just going off for him every one he went to he hit the jackpots.

Back on topic tho, hes really good at poker and once he gets his laptop back I can convince him to pay with the investment money.

My third idea was to create my own Poker website and just charge fees on withdraws. I can't find any poker software tho other then PHP Poker. It also works with points so I don't need a licence. BUT its not professional enough. So If I wanted to that I would need to find the right software and that would cost me about the same as the casino probably.

[Merlin]

My second Idea is selling subliminal audios because I own 2 programs that both can make effective subliminal audios.

My friend abilify1, i'm wondering if you have a conscience or not.

Why would you extract 100s of $ from people selling NAPs in subliminal form when you don't even master the own NAPs that you do?

Don't make money selling LOA CDs on making money. If they don't work for you they won't for them either. You FIRST, make money with the LOA and then sell CDs that will help people how to make money.

Merlin

[abilify1]

Well I did have some good feedback when I was selling them so I must of done something right.
We know enough that NAPS do work and ive seen some pretty cool stuff happen because of NAPS but I don't know how I am going to make a large amount of money out of no where so this is my ideas ive came up with and just looking for some honest feedback and maybe some support on getting started.

Ive been using NAPS for a while now I'm somewhat of a master , Although to master something like NAPS you would need to win the lottery or win every time u go to a casino.

Winning the lotto seems a little to much so maybe winning at casinos like my dad does might be my area that I should master.
Then from there I should sell my secret (NAPS) Only if its okay with you ?

We don't have many gamblers on here so I don't have much feedback for NAPS and gambling so Ill have to start from scratch.
Maybe Ill try Imagary+affirmations for this one.

[Merlin]

Winning the lotto seems a little to much so maybe winning at casinos like my dad does might be my area that I should master.
Then from there I should sell my secret (NAPS) Only if its okay with you ?

First of all, NAPs are not my properties. NAPs are Night Audio Programs so ANYONE who records a program in audio format and listen to it at night are doing NAPs so if you create 1 and make billions off of it then fine with you.

All i'm saying is stop selling dreams and hopes to people when you know that your NAP is not working. Make sure you have 1 that works and then make people happy.

Don't sell hopes, there are enough sharks out there.

Merlin